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	<title>Comments on: how can i tell if my health insurance benefits are pre taxed?</title>
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		<title>By: bostonianinmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bostonianinmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask your employer.  They will tell you.  Actually they should provide a form for you to sign every year verifying your benefit selections and how you want to have your healthcare premiums treated.

Nearly all healthcare insurance through a job are part of a Section 125 plan and are deducted pre-tax.  You generally have the option to pay them with tax paid dollars but I&#039;m at a loss to explain how that could be beneficial to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask your employer.  They will tell you.  Actually they should provide a form for you to sign every year verifying your benefit selections and how you want to have your healthcare premiums treated.</p>
<p>Nearly all healthcare insurance through a job are part of a Section 125 plan and are deducted pre-tax.  You generally have the option to pay them with tax paid dollars but I&#8217;m at a loss to explain how that could be beneficial to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: STEVEN F</title>
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		<dc:creator>STEVEN F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have to ask your employer, your pay statements are NOT well designed.  MY pay statement has 3 sections under deductions: Pre-Tax Deductions, Taxes, and Other deductions.  Which section is your insurance deduction under?  If that doesn&#039;t help, you will have to ask your employer.  You mentioned self-employment.  If you are self employed and need to ask, you NEED an accountant DESPERATELY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have to ask your employer, your pay statements are NOT well designed.  MY pay statement has 3 sections under deductions: Pre-Tax Deductions, Taxes, and Other deductions.  Which section is your insurance deduction under?  If that doesn&#8217;t help, you will have to ask your employer.  You mentioned self-employment.  If you are self employed and need to ask, you NEED an accountant DESPERATELY.</p>
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		<title>By: v b</title>
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		<dc:creator>v b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OKay, it&#039;s nice that you read a publication somewhere (it made for a funny looking question since you quoted from the pub).

When you get your W-2, look at box 14, many companies list the amount of health care benefits there.  Also Compare the amount in box 2 (your wages for social security purposes) and the amount shown as ytd wages on your last paycheck stub.  If your health care was pre-tax, the amount in box 2 will be LESS than the YTD wages on the paycheck.

Boston--Pre-tax health care lowers your social security earnings.  This *will* ultimately reduce the monthly payment one receives from SSA.  It *may* also affect how pension payments are paid out.  I happen to be a devout saver--anything I don&#039;t pay as taxes now, I save.  My savings should be enough to compensate for any loss in benefits.

The quick estimator at the SSA web site (plugging in $40,000 and 41,500 as the annual income with pre and post tax dollars) shows about a $30 difference in monthly benefits.
At the 15% tax bracket, someone would pay $20/month more in tax now.

If FERS uses the $40,000 number for retirement (assuming 20 years government service) , that would be another $25 a month as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OKay, it&#8217;s nice that you read a publication somewhere (it made for a funny looking question since you quoted from the pub).</p>
<p>When you get your W-2, look at box 14, many companies list the amount of health care benefits there.  Also Compare the amount in box 2 (your wages for social security purposes) and the amount shown as ytd wages on your last paycheck stub.  If your health care was pre-tax, the amount in box 2 will be LESS than the YTD wages on the paycheck.</p>
<p>Boston&#8211;Pre-tax health care lowers your social security earnings.  This *will* ultimately reduce the monthly payment one receives from SSA.  It *may* also affect how pension payments are paid out.  I happen to be a devout saver&#8211;anything I don&#8217;t pay as taxes now, I save.  My savings should be enough to compensate for any loss in benefits.</p>
<p>The quick estimator at the SSA web site (plugging in $40,000 and 41,500 as the annual income with pre and post tax dollars) shows about a $30 difference in monthly benefits.<br />
At the 15% tax bracket, someone would pay $20/month more in tax now.</p>
<p>If FERS uses the $40,000 number for retirement (assuming 20 years government service) , that would be another $25 a month as well.</p>
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